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Transcript bijdrage rondetafelgesprek Tweede Kamer Client Side Scanning 11 oktober - Bert Hubert's writings
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- The speaker has 15 years of experience with CSAM investigations, including software for the Dutch police and industry-government discussions.
- The EU 'Chatcontrol' proposal would add a scanning system to all messaging apps, analyzing photos, videos, and conversations for illegal content and grooming.
- The system uses AI to detect suspected CSAM, but the Netherlands Forensic Institute admits it cannot reliably determine age from photos, unlike the EU's claims.
- Alerts are sent to an EU official, then to local authorities, leading to potential investigations; false positives could cause unjust harm to innocent people.
- Europol plans to retain data from false positives, raising privacy concerns.
- This marks an unprecedented mass surveillance of 500 million Europeans, with over 420 scientists stating the technology is not reliable.
- The speaker compares the proposal to Chinese surveillance and warns of user backlash against government-mandated scanning.
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- Under Denmark's leadership, many EU member states demand that WhatsApp, Signal, and others be forced to use AI to scan all photos and links shared on their platforms.
- If the AI has even the slightest suspicion of child pornography, the image, location, phone number, and other details are automatically reported to Europol and local police.
- There is no clear procedure for what happens next; innocent users may have to explain private photos to police, and even if suspicion is unfounded, the photos are still stored.
- Once the regulation passes, WhatsApp will ask for permission to scan all photos and links; without permission, sharing images and links will be impossible. Signal has announced it will leave the EU if the law is implemented.
- Police and child abuse prevention experts say they are already overwhelmed; more automated false reports will not help. The proposal creates a new surveillance center run from the US, and history shows such surveillance power is quickly abused. Police, military, and intelligence services are exempt.
- The German government appears to support the proposal, which could become law. Others who should know better also seem in favor.
- Call to action: contact politicians, especially in Germany, to oppose this.
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- Under Denmark’s leadership, many EU member states push for mandatory AI scanning of all photos and links on services like WhatsApp and Signal.
- If AI has any 'doubt' about potential child pornography, your photo, location, phone number, and other data will be reported to Europol and local police.
- The consequences after reporting are unclear, but could lead to legal trouble, such as explaining photos at a local police station in Greek while on holiday.
- The AI must be created by companies like WhatsApp/Meta to surveil users on behalf of the EU, with a very low threshold for reporting (only 'manifestly unfounded' reports can be avoided).
- All users' photos are scanned regardless of suspicion, and even if deemed legal, copies may be stored in databases for future use.
- If the regulation passes, users may be forced to consent to AI scanning or lose the ability to share images and links; Signal threatens to leave the EU.
- Previous versions of the proposal did not include AI; it was reintroduced recently.
- Police and child abuse prevention experts warn they are already overwhelmed, yet politicians rarely provide more resources, instead pushing mass surveillance.
- Critics argue the system is a massive surveillance hub run by Americans, with exemptions for police, military, and intelligence services.
- The German government is set to support the proposal, increasing the likelihood it becomes law.
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- EU member states, led by Denmark, want to force WhatsApp, Signal, and similar apps to scan all photos and links using AI for child pornography.
- If AI has any doubt about content, the photo, location, phone number, and other data are reported to Europol and local police, with potential for false positives and language barriers.
- WhatsApp/Meta would create the AI to monitor users on behalf of the EU, with a low threshold for reporting (only if 'obviously unfounded' can be avoided).
- Even if authorities deem a photo 'legal', a copy is retained in a database for possible future use.
- Users will be asked to consent to AI scanning; refusal means losing the ability to share photos and links. Signal has threatened to leave the EU if forced to comply.
- Previous versions of the proposal did not include AI; this element was reintroduced recently.
- Police and child protection experts are already overloaded, yet politicians focus on surveillance rather than providing more resources, training, or international cooperation.
- The proposal creates a massive surveillance center run by Americans, and history shows such mechanisms are eventually used for other purposes, while exempting police, military, and national security.
- The German government appears likely to support the proposal, along with other governments, prompting calls for citizens to contact politicians and raise awareness.

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